The Crystal Skull Explorers

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Joshua and DesyRainbow Shapiro are the authors of the new book "Journeys of the Crystal Skull Explorers", and they are organizing an International Crystal Skulls Festival in the Netherlands in October 2006. This interview was originated by the Spanish language print magazine Mas Alla, who will publish some of the material. We are grateful to the Shapiros for allowing us to publish it here as our Special Feature.

What is a crystal skull and what types of crystal skulls exist?

A Crystal Skull as the term suggests is nothing more and nothing less then a piece of quartz crystal that is taken from the ground and then shaped by a talented artesian into a human shaped skull (can vary from all sizes -- from the size of a small marble to one that is several times the size of a human bone skull). Sometimes "crystal skulls" are referring to skulls carved from other gemstones but the true definition is one that is made from quartz crystal.

There are three types of crystal skulls normally referred to, this set of definitions was developed by the Society of Crystal Skulls International.

A) New or Contemporary Crystal Skulls -- crystal skulls being made by modern carvers today who are using diamond-tip tools (saws and wheels) to shape the skulls, thousands of such skulls are being carved today

B) Old Crystal Skulls -- crystal skulls made over 100 years ago to about 1000-1500 years ago -- using various type of tools used by past cultures and civilizations to form a skull

C) Ancient Crystal Skulls -- crystal skulls made over 2000 years and much much further in the past, perhaps thousands, hundred of thousands or millions of years ago

There is no known absolute scientific test that can truly determine when a crystal skull was created -- but one can generally experience a very powerful energy linked to the so-called Ancient Crystal Skulls more so than with the more modern ones. This does not mean however that one crystal skull is greater or lesser then another or more important. In order to fully understand the Crystal Skulls, we believe it is of vital importance to study each one, all the three of the different types. Each one then becomes a teacher that is able to provide for us far more insights into all of them, this is of course our humble opinion!! :--)

Why do you think the archeologists and scientists have ignored the crystal skulls so far?

We believe (and in a way this makes perfect sense logically) that if there are strange physical phenomena that are occurring in the presence of a crystal skull, that if any scientist chooses to ignore the investigation of such activities it is probably due to the fact that this type of phenomena does not fit into any of their modern theories of reality or physics - thus its much easier to pretend the crystal skulls don't exist or that the people who are witnessing such phenomena are crazy. Because how can just a piece of crystal have such a strong energy around it that it physically changes its color, weight or how it appears inside? This is against the laws of modern physics!!

Similarly for an archeologist, if there exists an object whose its history is unknown or that could not have possibly been manufactured by primitive cultures of the past (as there is the belief that mankind today is the most advanced race of humanity to have ever existed) then it is easier to ignore such an object or artifact than to try to explain why and how it could exist.

Perhaps because of the implications and results we have uncovered in our own personal research working directly with the crystal skulls, and because some of these results tend to refute accepted scientific or historic principles, these professionals prefer to completely ignore the crystal skulls or have decided that they are not worthy of any form of research or study at all. Fortunately, there are individuals and organizations in the world (such as our Crystal Skull WorldFoundation) who intuitively and inherently understand the importance of the crystal skulls and are pursuing through all means possible to create ongoing studies, experimental tests and related research.

But a scientific or historic study of the crystal skulls does not include an explanation about why the strong energies that surround the crystal skulls seem to have such a strong or profound effect upon individuals who have contact with these crystalline objects. There is not adequate space in this article to thoroughly discuss what type of personal experiences people are having linked to contact with the crystal skulls, that which is another story and area of research in itself and is why we have written our new book, "Journeys of the Crystal Skull Explorers".

Thus, because the phenomena that is linked to the crystal skulls is unexplainable based upon modern accepted theories or reality (for the scientists), and the technologic advancement required to make them associated with past cultures and civilizations from a historic perspective (for the archaeologists), these professional seem to have decided to ignore such objects so they do not challenge their cherished theories of reality and history, rather then to try to explain why the skulls are affecting so many people and are of great interest. Lastly, it is our goal through our foundation, to see if we can locate scientists and archeologists who are more open to new possibilities that might wish to become a part of future research projects. If there is one who is reading this article for example and intrigued, please contact us.

cheyenne.jpg You have received reports from people that after connecting with the skulls that they have had all kinds of different experiences. Can you describe some of these experiences?

There are two kinds of individuals who contact us (mostly through email, but sometimes via a letter, telephone call or meet us in person) that are having experiences when they are having a contact with one or more crystal skulls:

1) People who have their own crystal skulls

Today there are many carvers in the world making crystal skulls (predominately in Brazil and China but there are carvers doing so all over the world) -- so if an individual wishes to own their own crystal skull, there are many places to find and buy one. Such as on E-Bay, new age or crystal stores or through various people who either are teachers about the crystal skulls and sell them, as we do at times ourselves, or crystal skull sellers and distributors.

The type of experiences we hear from these caretakers of their own crystal skulls include

A telepathic communication with their crystal skulls which results in the creation of a name for the skull as the intelligence or consciousness that is working through the quartz requests a specific name which is a reflection of the essence of this consciousness and how it wishes to interact with its caretaker. We use this word "caretaker" or the word "guardian" as we do not believe that one is an owner of the skull, only the individual or individuals that this particular quartz crystal has chosen itself to be with it and work with it to help that person in their individual soul path and growth and possibly, at some future time, to work together as a team to help other people farther down the road.

So a caretaker is the person who cares for and takes care of the skulls and helps to activate it and bring it more fully to life. We also have discovered ourselves personally and from many other caretakers that the crystal skull will communicate directly with its caretaker in some fashion and discuss "his"/ "her" (the skulls generally take on a masculine or feminine presence although some are both) personal dislikes and likes, the activities the skulls wishes to participate in with or without its caretaker, which location "he"/"she" wants to explore and visit to experience the energies in that location and the list of activities goes on and on. When one agrees to become a caretaker of a crystal skull, their whole life will change and we feel become rather exciting and interesting!!

2) A person who is not a caretaker of a skull but has an opportunity to be in the presence of one or to hold and touch it for a time:

What type of experiences are these people having then?

a) Quick or instantaneously healings of all kind of illnesses, emotional or past life blocks
b) profound dreams after meeting one or even before meeting the skull
c) expansion of ones inner gifts -- or a new spiritual gift that just becomes active
d) going into altered states of consciousness -- even channeling information from other intelligent sources
e) expansion and upliftment of one's creative gifts, whether such gifts are consciously known or not
f) contact with intelligences from other dimensions or planets
g) receiving energy and becoming energized
h) having visions or reliving past lives
i) leaving ones physical body and projecting into other dimensions or the past or the future
j) receiving information or knowledge telepathically -- such information can be inspirational to help a person in their life or it can have to do with cosmic knowledge or knowledge held and programmed into the skull by advanced civilizations from our past

There are many more type of such experiences we hear from others but this should give to your reader a good feel of what is happening so far!!

How old are the ancient skulls really? Do they come from Atlantis, Lemuria or a Mayan civilization...? Again based on our definition, an ancient crystal skull is at least 2000 years or much much older -- how old can they be, who can say?

We believe for ourselves, based upon personal past life memories that we have where we had an intimate contact with the crystal skulls that they were definitely involved with the Maya, Atlantis and Lemuria -- we have heard from other people that contact us, they share a similar feeling or discuss their own past life memories. We know from the Mayans who are alive today they definitely had contact with the crystal skulls and too many have memories of Atlantis, so there is no doubt the crystal skulls were a key tool used by this ancient civilization.

For example, DesyRainbow and I have seen in our own inner visions or mind's eye definitely working in the temples of Atlantis where the crystal skulls were actively used -- worked with by Priest and Priestesses. However it was the Priestesses who had the ability to help to open and activate the crystal skulls. Here is what DesyRainbow remembers from her former lifetimes:

"I have seen during the last 5 years many former lifetimes in which I was very intensively working with Crystal Skulls. My work generally encompassed opening the crystal of the skull and activating it for specific purposes or working with "my" own inner crystal skull and "my" crystal skeleton for healing others or to help to elevate the vibration of the other priestesses. But I also saw myself molding or creating a particular crystal skull and then merging frequencies or knowledge of sacred objects, sacred places and highly respected persons within the skull, to be stored safely for future uses.

This work was done in temples during Atlantian, Lemurian and Egyptian times as well as on other planets in our solar system. I discovered that I had many lifetimes where I worked in one way or another with these wonderful crystalline beings."

For a personal link to Lemuria, let us tell you a story. In 2002, we visited a remote location in the northern part of Peru, high up in the mountains. (Note: Some people believe the Andes Mountains resulted when the continent of Lemuria or Mu sank and then the land masses in South America rose, forming these mountains.) This location was near a sacred lagoon for the local shaman. Here we both saw in our inner mind, that once there had existed a great Lemuria Temple and in this place we went, which we saw as a circle of stones, once stood a circular room within this temple. On the walls in this room were glass cases and within each rested a different colored crystal skull.

Of course, we ourselves can not definitely prove that Atlantis or Lemuria truly existed although we believe there has been discovered a kind of physical proof to substantiate such. Or we can't prove that these so-called old civilizations from our distant past did indeed have the use of crystal skulls, some of which we may be aware of publicly now. We can only say that for both of us, within the core of our being we know that these civilizations absolutely had a connection with the skulls.

Also through some of the contacts we have with Mayan elders, they do openly discuss that the crystal skulls were brought to them from Atlantis and that they did not personally create these very old skulls.

The people who might truly know what is the exact history of the ancient skulls are the native people in our world. But long ago they realized that the crystal skulls were too sacred and important for the future of humanity and thus to protect the skulls, in general (the modern Maya are an exception) they won't discuss the existence of the crystal skulls they may have that they guard or even their wisdom and knowledge about what are the crystal skulls and what do they really represent.

What does the Maya oral tradition say about crystal skulls?

portal3.jpg The following information was shared by a Mayan Priest at a the Crystal Healing Symposium organized by Dr. Chet Snow, in the spring of 1999 in Sedona, AZ (where I received my first large crystal skull "Portal de Luz" as a gift from my ex-wife Vera) -- they represented a council of Mayan Elders from Guatemala -- I will paraphrase the message they spoke at the conference which was translated from Spanish:

The Priest said that some of the older (or ancient) crystal skulls in the world are the property of the Mayan Nation. They stated that the skulls were gifted to them by the Grandfathers of the Pleiades and that they are a rare and sacred Gift. The Pleiadians gave the Skulls to the Mayans to teach them about cosmic sciences and that after death, we are all reborn. They called the crystal skulls, the "Messengers from Time to Eternity".

The Mayans are troubled that people are exploiting the crystal skulls, especially the older ones and that they should not be used for personal gain or to further ones worldly ambitions. They also gave a warning that if these old crystal skulls are sold, that the consequences to the person who sells it might not be very pleasant.

Finally they stated: "… our Mayan Grandfathers, the Prophets, came from (the Pleiades) and then They returned after leaving us the Crystal Skulls as a sign of their existence and the virtues of the Mayan Sciences. The Crystal Skulls perceive the consciousness from beyond the Great Galaxy to spread the Cosmic Knowledge and not to sell it."

So to conclude, the Mayans recognized the crystal skulls are very sacred tools and are unhappy that some of their sacred crystal skulls were forcibly removed from their land by the Europeans when they came to the Americas to colonize in the 15th century. They would like to have the crystal skulls returned to them so they can protect them and work with them in their sacred ceremonies for the benefit of our world and all people. They understand that the crystal skulls are receptacles of great knowledge and information.

You have worked with trained sensitives. Can you describe the tests performed and what were the conclusions reached based upon this particular study with the crystal skulls?

The tests performed with a train sensitive and a crystal skull is very simple. The sensitive is allowed to hold the skull, and normally will go into a trance or altered state of consciousness. Sometimes during the trance or afterwards, they will verbally share out loud their feelings about the crystal skull or the object they hold or what visions they are receiving with the research team. From such research we have been able to gain great insights about the crystal skulls dealing with which civilization in the past had the skulls and even how they were created. From this type of research we have come up with various theories related to the skulls and their purpose as follows:

1) The skulls were created through the use of advanced laser that was able to cut the quartz into a precise shape

2) the skulls are a thought projection either from beings in higher dimensions or they were created by the thought projects of priests such as in Atlantis

3) possibly the skulls were gifts from the Gods (ETs)

The sensitives also will discuss how the crystal skulls were used by past cultures such as you have asked before. Some sensitives discuss that there exist crystal skulls on other worlds and that some of these skulls were brought here -- they also discuss the link with Galactic Races and ETs, who use the crystal skulls for communication devices and that some of the crystal skulls which are out and about in the world are actually recording everything that is occurring around them and then playing these scenes back to some unknown beings or a council so they can observe what is happening on our planet. Also there has been discussions about a link the crystal skulls have with a race of people who live on the Inner Surface of our world (also known as the Hollow Earth).

The major problem or challenge working with sensitives and the skulls is that we have trouble getting consistent information from the sensitive about the crystal skull they are holding. One sensitive will tell us one story or scenario and the next a totally different one, about which culture had this crystal skull or how it was fashioned.

We believe this happens because that sometimes the crystal skull is working like a mirror and is reflecting back to the sensitive their own past life information related to the skull which might not have anything to do with factual information. Thus we receive many versions and completely different stories and information related to the same crystal skull which is linked to the unique perspective of each sensititve. But still the insights gained by such talented people is a key to help us unlock the mystery around the crystal skulls and to better understand them.

Have the modern crystal skulls the same properties as the ancient ones? How many ancient skulls are in total?

merlin.jpg Your last question first -- we do not know exactly (does anyone truly know) how many ancient crystal skulls truly exist -- there are legends of a group of 13 very old or original ones discusses by various Native American tribes -- the Mayans discuss a group of 52 skulls, perhaps four set of 13.

Perhaps today, maybe there could be 15-20 crystal skulls that researchers believe could be ancient but again there is no definitive way or process yet developed that can substaniate this number, each crystal skull researcher has their own ideas and theories. And does it really matter for us to know which crystal skull is ancient and how it was created if that skull is able to help many people and produce a positive change or effect in our world?

For DesyRainbow and myself, we both feel that eventually, when it is the right time and humanity is truly prepared and ready, it will to be revealed publicly that there exists hundreds or thousands of ancient skulls which either have been hidden from us until it is the right time for them to be revealed so they can assist our world. We believe that many such skulls are now being guarded by various indigenous people all over the planet. But in truth, we believe that no single individual knows the answer to the number of skulls. Again, a better question to ask (which we answer below) is what role do the crystal skulls have to play to assist humanity and help us create a time of total peace in our future?

As far as what phenomena or capability the newer or comtemporary crystal skulls have -- they are duplicating to a certain degree many of the phenomena of the older ones -- why is this?

From Joshua: Well Carole Wilson, a good friend of mine who is a psychic and has channeled for an intelligence contained within the famous Mitchell-Hedges Skull once told me the following question -- "Does it matter when a crystal skull is formed --- is not all quartz crystal itself, ancient and very old having taken thousands of years to form in the ground?" Of course her point is quite true.

Next, I recall a conversion with my former co-author F. R. 'Nick" Nocerino (we worked with Sandra Bowen on a book entitled "Mysteries of the Crystal Skulls Revealed" released in 1989) who was sharing with me his views about the origins of the crystal skulls. He told me that for him with some of the very very old crystal skulls that had personally experienced, he sensed that the consciousness of the people who made the skulls were so highly evolved (far more then we are today), that perhaps we could not even conceive of what these people were like, what were their abilities were or even what they were capable of doing!! So there is no doubt that when one has contact with an ancient skull, that has brought to life and programmed by people or beings of a very highly evolved consciousness that many life transformation can happen to you!!

Now when an older or ancient crystal skull has contact with a modern one, some interesting things can happen. We have watched the older skull pass special abilities and gifts to this younger skull. Why? Because the younger skull is more free to travel the world and share these energies. Also we believe that when a newer skull is activated and opened by its caretaker, then various unseen and kindly friends (spirits and beings from other dimensions) can also place special energies and information into the new skulls. We have watch our own personal crystal skulls (all are newer skulls) been completed transformed over the years via all the activities and travels we have conducted. Again from our own observations, the ability of a new skull to be more energized or activated lies in a direct relationship to the level of spiritual growth and consciousness of its caretaker. If such a caretaker has worked with crystal skulls in other lifetimes, we believe that they have encoded in their DNA special energy that can really help to activate a new crystal skull.

A person should not automatically assume just because a crystal skull is newly made that it has no value or it can not be of great assistance to the people that this skull has contact with. We have many many reports that the new crystal skulls are doing a great job too!!

To conclude related to this question, I am remained of the answer Grandfather Tue Bear (deceased) told us in 2004 during his interview at the Four Direction Conference in Texas. Allow me to paraphrase what he said. He stated that the more modern crystal skulls were very important because they represented the hands and feet of the older crystal skulls. The older crystal skulls are not able to travel so freely but the newer ones can.

And lastly, I recall the first night after I slept with our personal crystal skull called "Portal de Luz", "he" told me that there exists an etheric energy network that links all the crystal skulls together -- like our modern internet which links computers all over the world together (well actually computers are made from quartz crystals). Therefore, once a new skull becomes activated or the crystal wakes up then the skull begins to proceed to fulfill its tasks or mission in the world - at this stage it can link into this etheric energy network and receive knowledge, information and energy from any other crystal skull that is also linked to this network. Imagine the possibilities of this last statement. Therefore, the new crystal skulls have just an important role to play as their older brothers and sisters!!

Can you please describe for us a few of the key skulls that you have in your crystal circle. What are their properties and your connection with them... Is perhaps you link a more mental connection?

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Currently we have over 20 crystal skulls in our possession whom we take care of but for the purposes of brevity we will discuss the three skulls that came to us first.

Joshua: Of all the crystal skulls we have, my strongest link with one and most interesting experiences is with our crystal skull known as "Portal de Luz", which is a 10 lb light smoky (gray) (although when I first received him he was much darker) quartz skull.

portal1.jpg "Portal de Luz's" life began as a large block of smoky quartz mined in the state of Minas Gerais in Brazil. He was brought to a carver in this area who fashioned "him" into a skull shape in 1998. Then "Portal de Luz" was sold to a couple in America who sell crystal skulls and I met this couple and the skull at the Crystal Healing Symposium in Sedona, AZ in 1999, receiving him as a gift. Carole Wilson, the Canadian sensitive I mentioned before, worked with "Portal de Luz" and told me that the quartz of the skull had been specifically programmed for me energetically before I was physically born and was just waiting for the time when we would physically meet. She told me that "Portal de Luz" would help me to activate some of my hidden inner gifts and help me to expand my work with the crystal skulls which has really happened over the past seven years.

The name of this skull is Portuguese or Spanish and Means "Portal or Door of Light" -- this name was chosen because we were inspired to use such a name and also because the crystal came from Brazil and the carver is Brazilian, so we want the name to be in Portuguese.

When I have communicated with "Portal de Luz", the communication comes to me more on a feeling level or I will hear in my own thinking voice an idea or information he wishes to share with me. (And yes I feel that this skull has a more masculine presence so I use The word "he" when I refer to "him"). Now I am not alone in the world to be receiving a telepathic communication with my friend, this happens to DesyRainbow as well and with many other caretakers we know. Exactly who is speaking through the crystal skull is hard to say though!!

"Portal de Luz's" special gifts are many. To try to explain in words, as I can best understand it, he definitely likes to work with many people and meet many people. He likes to help people to discover their purpose in life from an earthly point of view and at times he will offer healing or energize the person he is having contact with him. In a way, he is like his male caretaker (myself) in that he is a jack of all trades and will try to assist the person he works with in whatever is the best way for their highest good in that moment. He is definitely about sharing of important information and collecting information. For example, he sat with me during the entire time I was writing our new crystal skull book and I think he was helping to create a very good energy in the room so I could be clear on what to write in the book. He has been tested and tends to create energy fields that helps to balance the energy of the person or the environment he is in.

He also enjoys to be filmed and to be part of media shows -- for some reason he is quite photogenic. He loves to be involved with any research projects we are conducting to better understand the crystal skulls as he was our key test skull in many of our experiments (as reported in our new book) and he likes (almost demands) to be present during any important meetings that are dealing with his crystal family (such as our conference in Holland in October, 2006 or the new non-profit foundation we have set up).

He likes to offer himself to new people, who have never had a chance to be in the presence of a crystal skull and to experience one. He seems to know exactly what type of experience the person needs, he is very gentle with them and then can help a person to prepare for their first encounter with an ancient crystal skull.

Ok, here is DesyRainbow's comments about two of our other crystal skulls that she works very intimately with called "Unity", a 1 lb rose quartz skull and the other is a 3 lb clear quartz skull called "Mozes of Peace", both of these crystal skulls made by the same carver as "Portal de Luz" in Brasil:

"Unity was the very first crystal skull I held on the same day that I first met Joshua in Holland (March 2001). Later, she helped me to balance my emotions in my Heart Chakra and to release any energies I had at this time, which were of no use to me anymore. I just loved this cute crystal being. By holding and taking care of her I remembered the Love I should give to myself (we all have this Love inside of us) and it reactivated my gift (which I had in many former lifetimes) to be able to open up any crystal.

Although I "Love" and "Honor" all the crystal skulls that have come to us, Mozes of Peace is the crystal skull I work the most with. He is my one of main teachers, my friend, my pal, and my crystalline family member. He and I ARE ONE. (see photo included of this crystal skull)

moses.jpg Mozes of Peace told me that my DNA was merged with his crystal structure long before I was even born. So my DNA actually, can be found within him as a crystal skull. He was patiently waiting for me, for thousands of earth-years. When I was a young girl I had many times the same vision, an androgynous being (who looked female to me) came to the Earth in a spaceship and brought a crystal into a crystal mine. Then after she placed all the information about her planet and herself into this crystal, she fused this particular crystal with other crystals in that cave. The cave seemed to be on a planet called Earth - Gaia - Tara. This being knew that this particular crystal would be made into an object that would be received by a being living in a time-period in the far future. What this being did not comprehend at that moment was that this future being/ person who would eventually receive this crystal, was her future self .Now I, DesyRainbow, do understand when Mozes of Peace came to me he said, "Remember your vivid vision that you had when you were a young girl, a vision about the being who came to Earth with a crystal that she brought into a mine? That crystal Am I".

When Mozes of Peace came to me in 2001 he said to me: "I will help you to get millions over the border" I interpret this now as, "I will help you to open many people up to their spiritual potential, preparing them for the big transformation that will come to our world and to remember who they really are, Beings of LIght.". I do hear a real male voice when Mozes (telepathically) talks with me. He goes wherever I go when I am out for more than a day. Normally, the daily travelers (the skulls) who go with me, are of smaller size because they just fit into the pockets of my jeans. These skulls will bring home the energies they have incorporated on their daily adventures, so that they can share them with the other members of our crystalline family that stayed home.

The gifts that Mozes of Peace will offer the people and he gives for myself are very elaborate. Mozes (as I stated before) is a wonderful healing skull who is able to channel the "7 Rays of Light" and can show to a person very clearly what is the blockage that exists in their personal life. He is very connected with the "Merlin Energy" and with the energy of the Ascended Master "St. Germain", who told me that HE also takes care of this crystal skull. "Mother Mary" blessed Mozes in 2004, in a chapel in England where "she" appeared very clearly in front of both of us and I saw how the 'Lady of all Nations' put her hands on top of Mozes' head and blessed him, which filled me with Joy and deep Gratitude.

Another gift Mozes possesses is that "his" ability to connect a person with the energies of the original planet or world from which this person's soul originates from. This is very handy for certain people who feel kind of "homesick" at times. The spirit of Mozes is able to travel far distances and "he" will bring me quite often through different galaxies and into other dimensions and timelines. "He" is not as fond of large public events as his brother "Portal" but in order for him to transfer his beautiful energies, he sometimes needs to be with a large group of people and this is ok for him. And last but not least, Mozes of Peace likes the water, rainstorms, snow storms, and especially luke warm water to bath in. He recently shared with me that we both have to do some work with the waters of Holland, but this is for the near future."

In your opinion the crystal skulls are: 1. computers, 2. tools for healing, 3. they help people to awaken to their real nature...?

Yes to all three


1. computers -- one gets the sensing they are holding tremendous information inside that can help humanity in so many ways

2. tools for healing -- every time we travel with our crystal skulls and offer our private sessions -- we see remarkable transformations happening to the people and at time, complete reversals of their health challenges - - so, you bet they are definitely a healing tool

3. Yes, absolutely they are a catalyst for helping people to see their true nature -- they are like a mini - energy vortexes and they will almost propel a person to release physical, mental, emotional, and past life blocks very quickly -- which helps one to see oneself. The crystal skulls are a mirror who show us what is truly inside of each of us!!

What kind of holographic images appear inside the crystal skulls and what do you think these images mean or represent? Could they be projections from the minds of other people or perhaps from the minds of the carvers who made the skulls?

During the research conducted by the Crystal Skull Society International during 1970-1980, they discovered that when an individual works with a crystal skull, that either that individuals personal energy or their mind is able to somehow activate the crystal skull and this will produce various holographic images that are seen and form inside of the crystal skull.

These images could be photographed (a few were shown in our first book, Mysteries of the Crystal Skulls Revealed) -- and all kind of scenes and objects would show up including

1) small and giant people
2) scenes from many places or many worlds
3) UFOs and ETS
4) animals and plants
5) other crystal skulls
6) dolphins and whales, underwater scenes
7) even images of people recently working or around that specific crystal skull where these images are appearing!

Our idea is that these holographic images represent the skulls ability to work as a video camera as of sorts -- that it can record in some form (perhaps on another vibrational level) all the activities that happen around it and depending on the person's energy working with the skull or the energy of the location where the skull is sitting, this energy acts like a key that unlocks the various holographic images stored within the skull and will release specific images that are related to the energy of the person and place at that specific time so other people may view it.

However, not everyone can see these holographic images, or some people see different things inside of the crystal skull at the same time. Therefore it is unknown if such images truly exist in the skull physically or on another dimension or if the skull is projecting these images into the mind of the viewer -- its possible it could be a combination of both.

Also is it possible that some very powerful minds were involved in creating the so-called ancient skulls and that they could have placed these images for us to view at some future time? When one begins to work intimately with a crystal skull, anything is possible and one must be open to all kinds of conceivable possibilities!!

DesyRainbow, can you describe the method you use to channel divine healing light energy. Do you work with the skulls to help with this?

I am trained in the Universal Energy healing transfer (for more information please visit: and also with the VortexHealing® energy transfer (see: as well as the ability to share with other people crystalline vibrations as was taught to me by the crystal skull Mozes of Peace. These various techiniques and training, allowed me to develop my ability to work as an open channel for Light Frequencies and Divine Energies. (Basically I step aside and allow these special energies to come through and be given to my clients.)

I feel this process started and I was prepared for being this channel during the "energy meetings" I shared with our beloved "Mother Mary" who appeared frequently at the end of by bed when I was a young girl. In 2001, while I was taking the basic level of the VortexHealing® course, I suddenly was visited by "Mother Mary" after many years of absence, when I was singing the song, the "Avé Maria" in a local chapel. "Mother Mary" asked me to feel deeply inside myself if I would like to be again, one of "Her" Priestesses. The next day when "Mother Mary" appeared to me, I signed a scroll (with an energetic stamp from the Love of my Heart Crystal) to do this task to the best of my ability.

For as far as I understand, this experience opened me as a channel for Divine Healing Light energies from several high energy Beings in other realms. I do use the energy of a Crystal Skull for this, but when I do this work and if a crystal skull is involved, I will work closely with Mozes of Peace as he is also a true healing skull and his very first initiation with an energy-vortex was one linked to the White Brotherhood. Sometimes the energy I channel will start as a combination of the VortexHealing® energy and the crystalline energy and often it will be replaced during that session by this Divine Healing-Light.

So what is the important of the crystal skulls? Why should people know about them -- what is coming up in the future?

Well we believe the crystal skulls (the older ones) are the ancient computers that were used by various advance cultures in the earth's distant past or where gifts from the Gods or the ETs. Thus the knowledge and information they contain can be of vital importance and assistance for humanity. At present, it appears this information is communicated to a person via telepathy (thought) but eventually we believe (if we don't already have such devices) that eventually we will be able to construct a type of machine that is able to replay the information that has been encoded or recorded within a crystal skull. We could compare this situation to the idea as follows, what if we went back in time, say 100 years ago and brought with us a CD or DVD. Well those folks wouldn't believe us if we told them on this disc is contained libraries of books, music and visual movies plus there would be no way to play the disc to prove it.

On numerous occasions, people have witnessed how the Crystal Skulls have been able to help (or heal) people of all kinds of physical or emotional problems, after a person has a personal contact with a skull. Thus the crystal skulls can be seen as a powerful tool for awakening the full consciousness within a person and to help them quickly release any type of blockage that is inside of them on all types of levels allowing the individual to discover more of their true inner self .

Some of the legends and information we have gathered through various indigenous sources suggests that there are certain groups of crystal skulls (perhaps scattered all over the world) who will eventually come back together and when these crystal skulls re-unite, they could generate a powerful energy that could act as a catalyst to forever change the vibrational frequency of our planet which could result in a total awaken of all of humanity to their spiritual nature in a single moment.

It seems on some level, the consciousnesses (or a form of living presence) that has bee held within the crystal skulls (perhaps for thousands or millions of years) is beginning to awaken in a big way which could explain within the last ten years why there is such a strong public interest to know more about the skulls. Now, we are seeing for example, more television shows (documentaries or specials) that somehow are including the crystal skulls as a subject of discussion and even in a few new movies a crystal skull plays some roles. Several new books have been written about the skulls and thousands of people now have their own personal experience with one or have a strong desire to even have their own skull to work with. Back in the 1970s and 1980s there just wasn't a lot of interest as there is today. It is quite remarkable!!

For DesyRainbow and I, we know in the core of our being, the return of the Crystal Skulls is a powerful physical sign of the coming of the prophecised Golden Age. This is why the crystal skulls are coming out now more and more, why people are beginning to hear more news related to the skulls after they have seemingly been hidden for so many thousands of years.

Joshua: I remember when I first saw a picture of the ancient crystal skull "Ami" - as I was viewing the photograph, I heard some part of myself say that the contact with this crystal skull was my inner proof and confirmation that the prophecised Golden Age was really going to happen in our lifetime. Amazing!!

So in regards to the future, we fully anticipate and expect that far more ancient crystal skulls will be appearing. We expect that eventually some of these skulls will be brought out by the various native tribes who guard them. We expect there will be new research conducted upon the crystal skulls to help us to even better understand what they truly represent and eventually, through some means or process we believe the skull will not only communicate valuable and timely information humanity needs to save itself from itself and create a world of Peace but they will speak to us directly, as one living being to another. It is just that they are silicon based beings and we are carbon based beings.

Lastly, there are a number of personal and group projects that we are currently involved with that we believe will assist to educate others about the crystal skulls and help the skulls to fulfill their mission in our world:

In October of this year, we are offering in Holland our 1st International Crystal Skull Festival for 3 days bringing together various crystal skulls and special presenters from North America and Europe. Here we hope to offer the best information and latest news surrounding the crystal skulls as well as provide a unique opportunity for the Festival's participants to have their own direct contact with a wide range of crystal skulls. Also we hope the festival will be a good place to begin to develop a closer relationship amongst the people involved in this field of study and to form an alliance of people and organizations to work together in a more cooperative manner.

More information about the Festival can be found at:

website: email: [email protected]

Our new crystal skull book will be released this year in English and Dutch, in a printed form. This book includes an overview of many key aspects surrounding the crystal skulls including a brief history, interviews with various crystal skull caretakers, carvers, indigenous sources and researchers. Additionally we share a number of examples of the personal experiences people are having with the crystal skulls and the research we conducted with the crystal skulls over a three year period.

More information can be read about our new book entitled "Journeys of the Crystal Skull Explorers" by visiting our website at:

Next we have just created a new research and non-profit foundation for the crystal skulls also in the Netherlands called the Crystal Skull WorldFoundation. This organization is a sponsor for the International Festival this year and we hope through the foundation to offer much such public gatherings in the future. Also we will continue to explore new research projects to help us better understand the crystal skull and are actively seeking donations to support this work.

For more information about the Foundation you can visit: email: [email protected]

Finally we are also working on some media-based projects, such as a new documentary that will include interviews with various presenters from our Crystal Skull Festival and a feature film that shows a special story linked to the crystal skulls.

We have never been so busy as the interest around the crystal skulls continues to explode all over the world.

Thanks for listening and learning more about our crystal friends known as the Crystal Skulls

in peace and light always,

Joshua & DesyRainbow Shapiro
the Crystal Skull Explorers

© 2006-7 Joshua and DesyRainbow Shapiro for StarchildGlobal

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